{"id":8613,"date":"2022-03-08T00:36:46","date_gmt":"2022-03-07T23:36:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ceylou.com\/wordpress\/?p=8613"},"modified":"2022-10-10T08:55:19","modified_gmt":"2022-10-10T06:55:19","slug":"first-class7-evaluer-estimer-conseils-bateau","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ceylou.com\/wordpress\/first-class7-evaluer-estimer-conseils-bateau\/","title":{"rendered":"First class7 \u00e9valuer ?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-heading\">Conseils pour \u00e9valuer, estimer un bateau, un voilier.<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Menu&gt;&gt; <a href=\"https:\/\/ceylou.com\/wordpress\/first-class7-association\/\">Accueil first class7<\/a>|<a href=\"https:\/\/ceylou.com\/wordpress\/first-class7-fiches\/\">Fiche technique<\/a>|<a href=\"https:\/\/ceylou.com\/wordpress\/first-class7-jauge\/\">Jauge<\/a>| <a href=\"https:\/\/ceylou.com\/wordpress\/category\/accastillage-pas-cher-pour-voiliers\/\">Voiles &amp; Accastillage<\/a>|<a href=\"https:\/\/ceylou.com\/wordpress\/first-class7-evaluer-estimer-conseils-bateau\/\">Evaluez vtre bateau<\/a><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">vous\u00eates ici<\/mark>|<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Comment \u00e9valuer un bateau \u00e0 voile? Nos <em>Conseils pour \u00e9valuer, estimer, analyser le prix, la valeur d&#8217; un bateau<\/em>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong> Tout d&#8217;abord nous poss\u00e9dons une flotte de first class7.<\/strong> <br>M\u00e9fiez vous de certains forums, des gens qui &nbsp;\u00e9mettent des avis, qui donnent leur opinion sans &nbsp;connaitre vraiment le bateau et  en n&#8217;ayant pratiquement jamais navigu\u00e9 avec. <br>Ce point de vue est valable pour tout type de bateau.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">sommaire<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"#remorque\"><strong>1-<\/strong> Le First class7 <strong>sans remorque<\/strong> de route.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"#Jeu-de-voile-usag\u00e9\"><strong>2<\/strong>&#8211;<strong>Jeu de voile usag\u00e9:<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"#Le-syst\u00e8me-de-remont\u00e9e-de-quille\"><strong>3<\/strong>&#8211;<strong>Le syst\u00e8me de remont\u00e9e de quille<\/strong>:<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"#Une-quille-attaqu\u00e9e-par-la-rouille\"><strong>4<\/strong>&#8211; Une <strong>quille attaqu\u00e9e par la rouille<\/strong>:<\/a> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"#La-carene\"><strong>5<\/strong>&#8211;<strong> La carene<\/strong> :<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"#Osmose\"><strong>6- Osmose:<\/strong> <\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"#L'accastillage\">7-<strong>L&#8217;accastillage:<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"#Le-gr\u00e9ement-dormant\">8- Le gr\u00e9ement dormant:<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><a href=\"#Le-syst\u00e9me-de-gouverne\">9- Le syst\u00e9me de gouverne:<\/a><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"#La-cote-argus-marine\">10- <strong>La cote argus marine.<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"remorque\"><strong>Les point importants<\/strong> a v\u00e9rifier avant d&#8217;acheter un bateau :<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>1-<\/strong> Le First class7 <strong>sans remorque<\/strong> de route.<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br> <strong>Sans remorque routi\u00e9re ce bateau est tr\u00e8s difficilement re-vendable<\/strong>. Ce bateau est un &#8220;Habitable<strong> <em>Transportable<\/em><\/strong>,&#8221; c\u2019est ce qui fait son int\u00e9r\u00eat. <br>Il faut savoir qu&#8217;une  remorque de route  en \u00e9tat co\u00fbte environ 2000\u20ac( les moins ch\u00e8res). Ce qui diminue notablement le prix du bateau. <br>De toutes fa\u00e7ons il vous faudra sortir votre bateau de l&#8217;eau pour son entretien, alors avoir une remorque vous sera indispensable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Commencer par vous renseignez sur le <em>co\u00fbt de remise en \u00e9tat d&#8217;une remorqu<\/em>e &#8220;<strong>d&#8217;occasion pas cher<\/strong>&#8220;\u2026\u2026. les freins, les roulements, le syst\u00e9me d&#8217;attelage, l&#8217;\u00e9clairage, les pneus ce sont des organes de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 soumis \u00e0 la m\u00eame r\u00e9glementation qu&#8217;une voiture vous risquez une belle contravention&#8230;&#8230; BRRR !!!! m\u00eame si vous bricolez vous m\u00eame la main d&#8217;\u0153uvre!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>N&#8217;achetez pas de remorques sans carte grise<\/strong>, ce n&#8217;est plus une remorque c&#8217;est devenu un&#8221; Ber&#8221; roulant&#8221;donc impossible de rouler avec sur la voie publique, de plus en plus les port vous mettent dans l&#8217;obligation de d\u00e9tenir une remorque et le stockage est payant, sauf \u00e0 la garer dans votre jardin avec une vue imprenable sur les rosiers et les rhododendrons. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"Jeu-de-voile-usag\u00e9\"><strong>2<\/strong>&#8211;<strong>Jeu de voile usag\u00e9: <\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un jeu de vieilles voiles ne permet pas une re-vente facile, sachant qu\u2019un jeux de voile neuf co\u00fbte environ  3000\u20ac, des voiles de course pouvant \u00eatre beaucoup plus ch\u00e8res.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em> Sachez que les voiles sont le moteur du bateau<\/em>, un jeu de voile ancien ne pr\u00e9sente aucun int\u00e9r\u00eat, m\u00eame pour la promenade car il faudra sans cesse faire des r\u00e9parations et son entretien reviendra tr\u00e8s cher (petites d\u00e9chirures, d\u00e9laminage etc etc etc&#8230;. <br>Ach\u00e8teriez vous ou vendriez vous une voiture avec un moteur de vingt ans d\u2019\u00e2ge ou 500 000 KM\u00a0?) donc attention aux voiles style <em>sac \u00e0 patates<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Nous conseillons<\/strong> aux acheteurs de<em> bien examiner les voiles<\/em>, elles entrent pour une part importante dans le prix du bateau. La garde robe co\u00fbte cher.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">M\u00e9fiez vous des voiles d&#8217;occasions  revendues sur certains site les qualifiants de voile comme neuve.<br>ce sont bien souvent des voiles d\u00e9class\u00e9es par le fabriquant car elle pr\u00e9sente des d\u00e9fauts et sont consid\u00e9r\u00e9es comme invendables, ce sont aussi des voiles neuves qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 echang\u00e9e par la garantie du fabricant pour la m\u00eame raison.<br> Pour trouver des voiles neuves au meilleur prix plus d&#8217;infos click sur> Aqualimba marine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"has-white-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-background-color has-text-color has-background wp-block-heading\"><a href=\"https:\/\/ceylou.com\/wordpress\/choisir-voiles-voiliers\/\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-white-color\">Plus d&#8217;infos sur les voiles neuves, click&amp;go  pour obtenir un devis <\/mark><\/a><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"Le-syst\u00e8me-de-remont\u00e9e-de-quille\"><strong>3<\/strong>&#8211;<strong>Le syst\u00e8me de remont\u00e9e de quille<\/strong>:<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong> C&#8217;est aussi un point ultra important. c&#8217;est <\/strong>le point faible du class7. <br>Il doit permettre une remont\u00e9e <em>sans efforts<\/em>.<br> Ce qui suppose un <em>palier<\/em>,<em> axe<\/em>, un <em>roulement \u00e0 billes<strong> <\/strong><\/em><strong> de remont\u00e9 r\u00e9cent<\/strong>.<br> Si  malgr\u00e9 cel\u00e0 il y encore des efforts, il faudra en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral <em>d\u00e9monter la quille<\/em> pour changer l\u2019axe et le syst\u00e8me de vis sans fin, ce qui repr\u00e9sente une d\u00e9pense importante, un travail \u00e9norme et beaucoup de fatigue pour un amateur. <strong>Attention au vice cach\u00e9.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"Une-quille-attaqu\u00e9e-par-la-rouille\"><strong>4<\/strong>&#8211; Une <strong>quille attaqu\u00e9e par la rouille<\/strong>: <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">  Voil\u00e0 un probl\u00e9me important, Il faudra la d\u00e9caper, la poncer, l\u2019enduire, et passer un anti-fouling. C&#8217;est long fatigant et couteux (attantion aux quilles qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 poncer \u00e0 la disqueuse ou ponceuse \u00e9l\u00e9ctique, il faudra reprendre toout les d\u00e9fauts occasionn\u00e9s  avec beaucoup d&#8217;enduits de repon\u00e7age plusieurs fois  \u00e0 la main&#8230;&#8230; c&#8217;est tr\u00e9s tr\u00e9s long \u00e0 faire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"La-carene\"><strong>5<\/strong>&#8211;<strong> La carene<\/strong> :<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> Contrairement aux id\u00e9es re\u00e7ues la coque  ce n&#8217;est pas ce qui co\u00fbte le plus cher, elle ne repr\u00e9sente qu&#8217;entre 20 \u00e0 25% du prix d&#8217;un bateau. <br><em>Le mats, le gr\u00e9ment, l&#8217;accastillage<\/em> sont des \u00e9l\u00e9ments <em>beaucoup plus chers<\/em> qui interviennent beaucoup plus dans le prix.<br><strong> La coque du First Class7 <\/strong>est de bonne construction et il est rare que le bateau soit atteint par l&#8217;osmose.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le prix d\u2019un Beneteau first class 7 d\u00e9pends beaucoup  de ces \u00e9l\u00e9ments et beaucoup plus que du moteur HB. ou&nbsp; des \u00e9clats dans le gel coat qui sont&nbsp; eux tr\u00e8s facilement r\u00e9parables pour pas cher.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"Osmose\"><strong>6- Osmose:<\/strong> <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le Beneteau first class 7 est tr\u00e9s rarement atteint d&#8217;osmose. <br>L&#8217;osmose se sont des cloques qui lorsque qu&#8217;on les percent avec une aiguille laissent suinter un liquide qui sent le vinaigre (acide ac\u00e9tique). <br>La bonne <strong>pr\u00e9vention <\/strong>est un traitement epoxy qui se passe au rouleau et qui rend la carene parfaitement \u00e9tanche. 2 couches et vous serez tranquille pendant des ann\u00e9es.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"L'accastillage\">7-<strong>L&#8217;accastillage:<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong> <\/strong>C&#8217;est un \u00e9l\u00e9ment \u00e0 ne pas n\u00e9gliger, <strong>car cela co\u00fbte cher,<\/strong> <strong>tr\u00e8s cher<\/strong> . <br>Contrairement \u00e0 une id\u00e9e re\u00e7ue,<em> l&#8217;accastillage des grandes marques n&#8217;est pas forc\u00e9ment de meilleur qualit<\/em>\u00e9. <br>La part de la publicit\u00e9, du marketing, du r\u00e9seau de distribution repr\u00e9sentant une part \u00e9norme dans le prix propos\u00e9. <br>Une marque moins connue,&nbsp; sera tr\u00e8s souvent moins cher et fera tr\u00e8s largement autant d&#8217;usage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les r\u00e9as&nbsp;de drisses, les taquets, les palans, sont <em>souvent tr\u00e8s us\u00e9s<\/em>, <em>sous-dimensionn\u00e9s<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"has-vivid-cyan-blue-background-color has-background wp-block-heading\"><a href=\"https:\/\/ceylou.com\/wordpress\/category\/accastillage-pas-cher-pour-voiliers\/\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-white-color\">Plus d&#8217;infos?  trouver de l&#8217;accastillage click ici<\/mark><\/a><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"Le-gr\u00e9ement-dormant\"><br><strong>8- Le gr\u00e9ement dormant:<\/strong> <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les haubans et bas haubans <em>doivent \u00eatre chang\u00e9 tous les 5 an<\/em>s, car autrement l&#8217;assurance ne vous remboursera qu&#8217;une mis\u00e8re en cas de casse du mat.<br>Il faut savoir que le g\u00e9\u00e9ment et le m\u00e2t subissent une <em>d\u00e9c\u00f4te de 10% par an.<\/em>&#8230;&#8230;<br>donc votre assureur ne vous versera plus rien si votre ensemble est vieux.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\"><strong>ATTENTION: <\/strong><\/mark><em>Les prix peuvent osciller du<strong> simple au double<\/strong> entre un bateau en bon \u00e9tat et un autre.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"Le-syst\u00e9me-de-gouverne\">9- Le syst\u00e9me de gouverne:<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Commencer par v\u00e9rifier le<strong> jeu<\/strong>. le systeme des articulations avec ses axes et paliers est<em> fragile<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Constitu\u00e9 de paliers rondelles en &#8220;delrin&#8221; il est sujet \u00e0 une usure rapide si la barre n&#8217;est pas ammar\u00e9e quand le bateau est au mouillage cel\u00e0 empire car elle a tendance \u00e0 battre.<br>Elle va brinquebaler sans arr\u00eat et les paliers vont se d\u00e9teriorer Tr\u00e9s vite. On ne trouve plus de pi\u00e8ces pour le bateau, il faut les <em>faire fabriquer<\/em> et cel\u00e0 va vous co\u00fbter un bras.<br>c&#8217;est le lot de tous les voiliers de plus de 15 ANS surtout lorqu&#8217;ils ont \u00e9t\u00e9 produits en petites quantit\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"La-cote-argus-marine\">10- <strong>La cote argus marine.<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> Tout comme pour les voitures,<em> l&#8217;argus ne repr\u00e9sente que le prix des professionnels<\/em>, cela suppose donc un bateau revis\u00e9, remis en \u00e9tat et <em>avec une garantie<\/em>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> Le prix demand\u00e9 par un particulier est tr\u00e9s souvent <em>surestim\u00e9<\/em>.<br>&nbsp; Il faut tenir compte de l&#8217;\u00e9tat, des travaux a effectuer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Les travaux co\u00fbtent chers tr\u00e9s chers, &#8220;les chers travaux&#8221; e<\/em>t de plus ils sont fatigant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pour trouver des voiles au meilleur prix voir&gt;click ici Aqualimba marine<\/p>\n\n\n<h2>&nbsp;<\/h2>\n<h2>&nbsp;<\/h2>\n<div>\n<hr id=\"system-readmore\"><\/div>\n<div>\n<p><span style=\"color: darkred;\"><span style=\"color: red;\"><span style=\"color: darkgreen;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Conseils pour \u00e9valuer, estimer un bateau, un voilier. 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